Posts by Pete Zahut

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SING NO SAD SONGS FOR EX-BETHELITES

by steve2 in

what happens to ex-bethelites is really of no concern to the gb.

and equally no concern to us as ex-jws or those who question jw organization.. layoffs have happened at headquarters and elsewhere for many, many years - although the scale this time is larger than previously, being an all time high: 1,600. .

for the record, we should spare any sympathy/empathy for those who are about to sent packing this time.

Pete Zahut

Surely the massive n umber one lesson from the latest layoffs from still-ins is this: You can no longer claim to be taken by surprise when you are laid off Bethel and have to go out in the "real" world and make a living. Poor baby! Not.

If they are true followers, they will believe that it's Jehovah's will that the GB has laid them off and they will rest assured that he will take care of them.

We have two couples in our family that are in Bethel. They have been there since they were in their late 20's and are now in their late 40's. They have spent the last 20 years being the darlings of their local and home congregations. They somehow travel to all sorts of tropical tourist destinations on their meager Bethel earnings and have a worldwide network of connections. If they should be laid off, I'm sure they will be handed jobs and places to stay, from the members congregations where they have contacts.

They will view this as Jehovah's holy spirit in action but in reality, the same thing happens for anyone who has built up a network of connections, whether it be in ones work career or in ones religious or family circle, when you're in trouble, the more people you know, the more likely someone will be able to offer you assistance.

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Imitating Jesus with a goatee vs Elders

by brandnew in

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ok.....ya gotta hear this ......pops, who is 80 + , slightly nacisistic, slight case of alzheimers, and a stubborn good ol man.. decided to grow a pretty nice lookin goatee this week..... elders swooped on him so quick, it was crazy....... pops looked like he was diggin the whole show of testosterone being flung in his face , but he stood his ground and smiled.... when the dust settled, and pops had his say..... he replied......"im imitating jesus, and jehovah "....!!!!.

omg...the smile on my face, and the one on my dads was priceless......along with the frowns on theirs... thats all....just wanted to share that..

Pete Zahut

I love it when old folks take advantage of their advanced years to get away with saying what we'd all love to say and to call-out B.S when they encounter it.

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All must be ready to obey...

by Half banana in

in view of the recent financial pressures being spun as opportunities to hasten armageddon, i think we should look again at the meaning behind their cultic warning of "all must be ready to obey intructions, whether appearing sound or not".

by dripping these creepy injunctions into the watchtower study and therefore into the conditioned and receptive mind of the jw, how long will it be before they are able to decree something like this?......

jw tv broadcast july 2017.

Pete Zahut

New light will be shed and the partaking of the emblems will be open to everyone. One and all will be invited to partake of unleavened bread that has been laced with that toxic waste left over from the C.T. Russell days that was found buried out at Watchtower farms a few years ago.

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What makes WT think they can reassign Bethel volunteers to be Regular Pioneers.

by Zoos in

when the gb cuts loose 1600 volunteers, what makes them think they can continue telling them how they will spend their time?

i've read on many of these threads that the 1600 will be reassigned.

what, are they still under some sort of contract?.

Pete Zahut

When it comes to laying off Bethelites, it sounds a whole lot better and less mean for the Society to say these folks will be out there Pioneering rather than scrambling to get on their feet and figure out what the **** they are going to do to survive.

Put a nice spin on it so the "friends" can say "Oh...isn't that nice "

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I had to bite my tongue in a conversation with my aged father

by joe134cd in

sitting there watching tv when my aged uber dub father says.. "i wonder if i could justify buying one of those tablets".. joe = in his mind thinks "yeah and send the bill to wt for it".

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i just smiled and didn't reply..

Pete Zahut

Joe = In his mind thinks "yeah and send the bill to Wt for it".

Or maybe the society should put all those soon to be laid off Bethelites to work assembling low cost electronic devices so folks like your Dad can still follow along in the meetings.

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E-Mail, Just recived. About Bethell adjustments.

by DwainBowman in

i just read an email from a friend, and she shared some very interesting emails from her friends about information on changes now happening at the bethels around the world.

here is the email: .

---------------------------------thanks sally, jesus is directing the org and all decisions and instructions to us may not seem practical from now on, neither will we understand the reasonings behind many of the changes that the organization makes.

Pete Zahut

Thanks Sally, Jesus is directing the org and all decisions and instructions to us may not seem practical from now on, neither will we understand the reasonings behind many of the changes that the organization makes. How exciting are these times!

That proves it. JW's thrive on being frightened, kept in the dark, having others make all the decisions and being told what to do. It makes them feel extra virtuous and it takes all the responsibility for the future off their shoulders.

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I just called Brooklyn Bethel about construction shut down

by Watchtower-Free in

i just called brooklyn bethel service dept.

they said they had not heard anything about a worldwide shut down of construction.

i asked if he had heard about london bethel shutting down construction.. he said no that it was a surprise to him.

Pete Zahut

Is it just me or does it seem weird that Bethel boy wouldnt know?

When it comes to layoffs, it may be intentional that the Bethelites are the last to know. Maybe they want to do a bit of spin doctoring and break it to them gently over a series of weeks.

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World Wide Construction comes to a Shuddering Halt - Jehovah's Blessing has Evidently been Suspended!

by Slidin Fast in

the chelmsford project in the uk has already come to a halt and every one has been sent home.

the bethel family in london is to be cut by several hundred.

my impression is that most ambitious youngster in the org dream of being involved with the building program.

Pete Zahut

It wouldn't surprise me if eventually Kingdom Halls were sold and people were told to meet in private homes in preparation for the Great Tribulation.

Or have Tele-meetings where the publishers watch the meetings broadcast from Bethel, in their own homes, only meeting together in person for the money making Assemblies, a few times a year.

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World Wide Construction comes to a Shuddering Halt - Jehovah's Blessing has Evidently been Suspended!

by Slidin Fast in

the chelmsford project in the uk has already come to a halt and every one has been sent home.

the bethel family in london is to be cut by several hundred.

my impression is that most ambitious youngster in the org dream of being involved with the building program.

Pete Zahut

You will also find it difficult to get people take on contracts if and when you change your mind and start building again. Trust disappears.

I have an old friend who was the best man in my wedding and who is now a multi millionaire, X-Elder, Overseer of overseas Assembly Hall Projects and an investigator of pedophile claims in the U.S. He told me that a lot of the materials for his Assembly Hall Builds were supplied by JW vendors and there were many instances of price gouging and fraud discovered.

His highly skilled service ended when he was disfellowshipped for notifying a congregation that an imprisoned pedophile from his Hall had just been reinstated and was being released from prison. He was specifically told by the society not to say anything but did it anyway and was DF'd. He told me that between the horrendous pedophile cases he investigated (victims committing suicide etc) and the fraud he witnessed on the part of JW's scamming the Society, he's done for good, which is something I never thought I'd see happening, to him.

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Help Me Undertand...

by DarioKehl in

according to the 2014 annual report:.

"worldwide, there are 115,416 congregations of jehovahs witnesses and 8,201,545 publishers.".

i don't understand how the borg is facing financial difficulty.

Pete Zahut

I believe this is 100% intentional. It will spook the average JW into thinking, "holy shit! we need to fork over even MORE $$$--they're obviously in trouble" when they're actually back stroking in cash like Scrooge MacDuck.

In my mind, just the opposite could happen. All those having doubts prompted by the recent doctrinal changes or financial grabs or those who view any success the organization experiences, is related to Jehovah's blessing, may begin to smell a rat and feel justified in withholding any financial support until everything is sorted out and explained thoroughly to them.